Copy notes with repeat 'after'
traycerb says:
I understand the default behavior for "Repeat After..." tasks is not to copy over notes to the next task after completion, as Emily explained here: http://www.rememberthemilk.com/forums/help/4080/.
However, it seems arbitrary to copy notes for "Repeat Every" and not for "Repeat After."
e.g. suppose I need to get a haircut after a month, and I use the notes to write the address and phone number of the barber. There's no benefit to making the task "Repeat Every...", because, if more than a month passes, I only ever need a single haircut, and thus, only ever need a single task to mark for completion. Yet by making it "Repeat After" the ancillary information is all lost.
At least a few other people would like this behavior changed, though at least one other person prefers the opposite, that notes NOT repeat: http://www.rememberthemilk.com/forums/help/11127/ . (Though in that case, it's trivial to delete the note, whereas, it's much more involved to recover the notes from a completed task).
Perhaps there can be a global option, or a keyword in the note that triggers a repeating note, though I think just making it act like "Repeat Every..." makes the most sense. I use "Repeat After..." a lot for tasks that need regular completion only once, but without any hard deadline, and the Notes thing is a major hindrance. Any thoughts on this?
However, it seems arbitrary to copy notes for "Repeat Every" and not for "Repeat After."
e.g. suppose I need to get a haircut after a month, and I use the notes to write the address and phone number of the barber. There's no benefit to making the task "Repeat Every...", because, if more than a month passes, I only ever need a single haircut, and thus, only ever need a single task to mark for completion. Yet by making it "Repeat After" the ancillary information is all lost.
At least a few other people would like this behavior changed, though at least one other person prefers the opposite, that notes NOT repeat: http://www.rememberthemilk.com/forums/help/11127/ . (Though in that case, it's trivial to delete the note, whereas, it's much more involved to recover the notes from a completed task).
Perhaps there can be a global option, or a keyword in the note that triggers a repeating note, though I think just making it act like "Repeat Every..." makes the most sense. I use "Repeat After..." a lot for tasks that need regular completion only once, but without any hard deadline, and the Notes thing is a major hindrance. Any thoughts on this?
(closed account) says:
I would also like to copy notes with "Repeat After", for exactly the same reasons as traycerb. I use the note-field to keep track of when I last did a repeating task that doesn't repeat with a fixed interval but *after* a fixed interval, like the haircut example above. Losing the notes with the task is major nuisance.
bwicks34 says:
+1
It definitely feels like the distinction between 'Repeat Every' and 'Repeat After' exists only for technology/coding reasons, not user experience reasons. I don't see why a user would want this distinction to exist. I could see that some users may want notes to exist for both and others would want them not to exist for both. Seems like an option to turn on/off for both would be the best scenario.
It definitely feels like the distinction between 'Repeat Every' and 'Repeat After' exists only for technology/coding reasons, not user experience reasons. I don't see why a user would want this distinction to exist. I could see that some users may want notes to exist for both and others would want them not to exist for both. Seems like an option to turn on/off for both would be the best scenario.
jeanniebean says:
+1
It would be nice if you could choose whether the note would be sticky at the time of creation, if it's a frustration for others to get rid of notes they don't want to repeat with a task.
It would be nice if you could choose whether the note would be sticky at the time of creation, if it's a frustration for others to get rid of notes they don't want to repeat with a task.
+1
Although scenarios exist where you don't need notes to be copied, I can't understand why they get lost by design!
Now you can't keep a log in the notes!
Even worse: before adding a note, you now have to check "oh wait, this is a repeating task... @$*, it's repeating "after"; I must close RMilk and open up EverNote to type my notes, close that app, re-open RMilk, and then continue milking ;->"
I've just added an extra check to my "RMilk quality control" task (which was repeating AFTER :-#) to check for recently completed repeating tasks with notes... I caught 3 other unnoticed issues!
Although scenarios exist where you don't need notes to be copied, I can't understand why they get lost by design!
Now you can't keep a log in the notes!
Even worse: before adding a note, you now have to check "oh wait, this is a repeating task... @$*, it's repeating "after"; I must close RMilk and open up EverNote to type my notes, close that app, re-open RMilk, and then continue milking ;->"
I've just added an extra check to my "RMilk quality control" task (which was repeating AFTER :-#) to check for recently completed repeating tasks with notes... I caught 3 other unnoticed issues!
mackay.multispares says:
+1
If I have made notes about account numbers, etc I want to be able to refer back to them if I need to
If I have made notes about account numbers, etc I want to be able to refer back to them if I need to
mlukacs says:
+1
amishmm says:
+ 1
I would vote for this too. In my opinion, deleting notes is a BUG and not a FEATURE as its destructive in nature and can cause data loss.
Yes you can recover notes by going to completed tasks but what you never noticed that notes were not carried for few months (because u already know what u have to do) and some day u have memory loss and suddenly realise that NOTES have disappeared!! (at trash may have emptied)
I would vote for this too. In my opinion, deleting notes is a BUG and not a FEATURE as its destructive in nature and can cause data loss.
Yes you can recover notes by going to completed tasks but what you never noticed that notes were not carried for few months (because u already know what u have to do) and some day u have memory loss and suddenly realise that NOTES have disappeared!! (at trash may have emptied)
serodmat says:
+1 !!!
codyeilrich says:
+1
Please add!
Please add!
Yeah, I had one for "Replace smoke detector batteries" after 6 months. The notes told me which detectors took which battery types (surprisingly, not all use 9 volts, but all require a really tall ladder). It would be nice if there were a checkbox on the task that said "Copy this note to repeated task" Then you could have on a note-by-note basis a little more flexibility.
zvi.likes.tv says:
+1 Please add
(closed account) says:
+1 please fix that
doshit says:
+1
I like to keep notes with recurring tasks so I don't have to store my personal tips "somewhere else" when I get around to completing that task the next time. Now I have to consider making all those kinds of tasks repeat EVERY even though in terms of my personal behavior I want to repeat it AFTER. That gets me into the bad habit of marking things complete just to keep my list clean. I guess I can look on the bright side -- I'll feel that much better the next time you guys throw that pop up that tells me how many tasks I've completed.
nskoric says:
+1
This is very annoying "feature" since RTM is one of rare pieces of software that deliberately deletes user information without informing them. I thought that I'm crazy when I noticed that my notes are missing, since I can't remember last time that an app deleted my information on purpose and without my knowledge. I still haven't full recovered my notes since I started trusting RTM and I didn't have a backup of my notes on another service.
Please remove this destructive "feature"! Apps should not delete user information without notice...
This is very annoying "feature" since RTM is one of rare pieces of software that deliberately deletes user information without informing them. I thought that I'm crazy when I noticed that my notes are missing, since I can't remember last time that an app deleted my information on purpose and without my knowledge. I still haven't full recovered my notes since I started trusting RTM and I didn't have a backup of my notes on another service.
Please remove this destructive "feature"! Apps should not delete user information without notice...
(closed account) says:
+1
dominic.spachmann says:
+1 :)
freeminder says:
Actually this behavior is so weird, that I considered it a bug and wanted to report it, then found a page saying it's by design! I converted many of my old "repeat every" tasks to "repeat after" some time ago. It was quite a surprise to learn that all my notes linked to those tasks we lost at some point (and I've already cleared the Completed list since then). Fix this please, there's absolutelly no point to make this behavior different in these two use cases, especially in such a unobvious way.
marekhappy says:
Started to use RTM 4 days ago... went crazy for like 5 minutes when my notes disappeared in repeated task :D
+1 thanks.
Eventhough RTM has some imperfections like tis, its really solid tool / Good Job ;-)
+1 thanks.
Eventhough RTM has some imperfections like tis, its really solid tool / Good Job ;-)
codyeilrich says:
I noticed notes are preserved if I complete a task using the android app. I'm not sure why the behavior would be different between mobile and web browser but it is!
kkyang says:
+1
+1, the majority of my notes are "repeat after" and I rely heavily on notes for personal notes to myself, often used to speed up the completion of my task. I've resorted to typing in long strings of text into the note description as a workaround. Please consider allowing notes to remain on "repeat after" tasks! Thanks!
(closed account) says:
+1
This mysterious behaviour made me think RTM was unstable and I was going to look for an alternative tool, until I found this page. I rely heavily on notes. It was made more difficult to track the issue down because the notes are not deleted when completing on Android (as noted above).
This mysterious behaviour made me think RTM was unstable and I was going to look for an alternative tool, until I found this page. I rely heavily on notes. It was made more difficult to track the issue down because the notes are not deleted when completing on Android (as noted above).
pachela says:
+1
I have repeating tasks to remind me to refill Mom's prescriptions. I keep notes on special instructions from the doc, as well as side effects to watch for and possible interactions. "Repeat after" is a better fit than "repeat every" but I don't want to lose my notes.
It doesn't make sense to me that "every" retains the notes, but the very similar "after" drops them. I'm hoping for a fix. Thank you.
I have repeating tasks to remind me to refill Mom's prescriptions. I keep notes on special instructions from the doc, as well as side effects to watch for and possible interactions. "Repeat after" is a better fit than "repeat every" but I don't want to lose my notes.
It doesn't make sense to me that "every" retains the notes, but the very similar "after" drops them. I'm hoping for a fix. Thank you.
Totally agree. I usually use repeat after x days for my repeating tasks, and use the notes section for any kind of clarifying instructions. Because of RTM's behavior of deleting the notes on these type tasks, I often write in long notes to myself in the task name so I have a place to hold this information. It works, but it clutters up my RTM.
markmorton says:
Yes please, this is very weird
davidfarquhar says:
I agree please change to keep notes
(closed account) says:
On a "Repeat After" the notes are still in the task but the date and time the note was added is defaulted to the task completion date. So if you spoke to 3 people on 3 seperate dates every time you completed a task the note would change to the last date completion. I have started putting a time stamp into the notes so it will be saved
juliusz.gonera says:
+1. This RTM behavior confused me as well
Stopped using notes at all for repeating tasks because of it
Stopped using notes at all for repeating tasks because of it
woutervhb says:
+1
kngrmd1 says:
if notes are not copied, this is stupid by design
repeats every 2 sundays is different and repeat after 2 sundays is different
in both types of repeats , notes gets lost?
kindly clarify
also admins take note of this issue
repeats every 2 sundays is different and repeat after 2 sundays is different
in both types of repeats , notes gets lost?
kindly clarify
also admins take note of this issue
Adding this to make clear that this is in the same state as it was 5 years ago. That is, the issue is 50% completed.
On a "Repeat After" task, when you mark it completed the notes ARE copied to the new instance of the task (which is good), but the date and time of the note is changed to the date and time at which you completed the task.
To be clear, when a repeat AFTER task is completed, all notes should be copied to the new instance and the modification date and time of the notes should NOT be changed. (Because the notes have NOT been edited even though technically RTM internally made a new copy of the notes for the new task instance, that is just a programming detail and not of value to the user.)
On a "Repeat After" task, when you mark it completed the notes ARE copied to the new instance of the task (which is good), but the date and time of the note is changed to the date and time at which you completed the task.
To be clear, when a repeat AFTER task is completed, all notes should be copied to the new instance and the modification date and time of the notes should NOT be changed. (Because the notes have NOT been edited even though technically RTM internally made a new copy of the notes for the new task instance, that is just a programming detail and not of value to the user.)
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